Is Bottomless Coffee Really a Good Idea?

bottomless.gif All humor aside, sometimes I really do wonder.

Although offering bottomless cups of coffee can be quite popular with patrons, it may not be the best solution to getting paying customers inside your doors.

Consider this:
Your coffee costs you probably anywhere between $4.50 and $9 per pound wholesale. This is not commodity grade stuff. Why bother to source Specialty Coffee suppliers in the first place if there is no emphasis on the quality of the coffee in the retail environment?
Let’s discuss this in terms of perception. A customer comes in. They pay their $1-$2. They get their cup, and head to the air-pot… again… and again… and again. At this rate, what is it they’re paying for? Are they paying for the coffee, or are they getting free coffee when they rent some table space for hours on end? Even if they do perceive that they are paying for the coffee, what kind of a message does this send out about the caliber of the coffee being sold?

The point being made is that coffee sold this way is perceived to have little to no value at all. Obviously, if you are a Specialty Coffee retailer, your coffee is far from worthless.

Now, then. I am assuming that part of the reason we all got into this business is to share our love for great coffee with other people, and to help boost the overall appreciation of what it is we do. Does selling coffee for practically nothing contribute to this cause? In a way, yes. But what’s the result?

Tossing out bottomless coffee as a menu item has its benefits. For one thing, less waste. You don’t need to brew an entire air-pot because a bottomless coffee customer needs a “warm-up”of a coffee that just ran out… half an hour to closing time. (If this happens, and you DO sell bottomless coffee, it is better to serve the customer than to attempt to conserve another pot of coffee).

Better still, is brewing by the cup. There are many solutions to accomplishing this goal, such as a Pour-over Stand, French Presses, Chemex (another pour-over), Siphon Brewers (aka vacuum pots), or the gigantic investment of equipment known as Clover.

There is more than one benefit to the cup-at-a-time concept. For one thing, the perceived value of a cup of coffee increased, and thus, so does the potential pricing. Second, how does “no wasted coffee” sound? Everyone in this business knows that a cup of coffee costs change to the business, but what does this add up to if you compound the average volume of coffee thrown away in just one day? Don’t look at it in actual cost, look at it in terms of potential income costs. For most retailers, this is quite a number! Last in this rather short list of benefits is the quality of the coffee. In a hands-on approach to brewing coffee, the barista can actually manipulate various factors to brew a better cup of coffee. With an automated drip brewer, you’re pretty much limited with the barista’s interaction in the process.

This hand-crafted cup of coffee that tastes divine is certainly something worth paying for. This is not your average off-the-shelf cup of Joe, and your customers will be able to see and taste that with their own senses. Higher profit margins per cup, less waste, and a higher perceived quality of the products being sold by your company. Sound like a winning combination? You bet it does.

Now let’s have a look at the other side of this coin. I know there are many retailers who offer bottomless coffee because it encourages their customers to stay for longer. The longer they stay, the more likely they are to buy other items like pastries, bottled water, and food items like panini (or other sandwiches), soup, or salad (if these items are offered). The money is not made on the coffee in these situations, but on the mark-up of the various consumables that a “camper” is likely to purchase during their stay.

When this is the case, then the time has come to ditch the title of “coffee retailer” in favor of something along the lines of “Cafe”. At this point, you are no longer selling coffee. You are practically giving it away in an effort to attract more customers to your company’s focus: food. Not that there is anything wrong with that. It’s best to know where you stand, and to be honest with yourself, and your customers. If you are not primarily a Specialty Coffee retailer, make this reflected in the name of your business, and your company’s presentation to the public.

How about another perspective. Starbucks does not sell bottomless coffee, nor do they offer refills at a discount (or even at all). You have to wonder if there’s a reason for this. If nothing else, please realize that if Starbucks can do it, so can a quality focused independent retailer. The difference is that the independent retailer has more flexibility to really milk the single cup pricing for all its worth.

What’s best for your bottom line may not line up with real possibilities. What’s best for promoting coffee and its producers is probably not best for drawing customers in to purchase food items, and visa versa. Your coffee is special, and deserves to be marked according to its value. I encourage you to find the courage to promote the coffee for the sake of great coffee. There is profit to be made in doing so, and the industry as a whole can only benefit from an increased consumer awareness of quality coffee.

14 Responses to “Is Bottomless Coffee Really a Good Idea?”

  1. Jonathan Aldrich Says:

    I work at a specialty roaster/coffee shop in Dallas that does offer free refills, but we don’t advertise it on the menu. We do use an automatic drip, and we rebrew on a time schedule, so the reason we offer the refills is to limit waste. I’m sure most everyone would agree that it is better to put your product in a customer’s hand than down the drain. I see both sides of the argument, but just wanted to put that positive spin out there. I’d say 90% of our customers keep it to one cup.

  2. Jason Haeger Says:

    Thanks for the feedback, Jonathan.

    Do you mind my asking which roaster/retailer you work in?

    Is it on our list? (if not, I’d like to add it)

  3. Mitchell Baldridge Says:

    Good article, Jason. I believe you have had more experience working with and going to Starbucks than I, but I have found that they have always offered refills at a discount on green tea and coffee. I cannot recall the exact price, but I believe it is in the $0.55-0.70 range..

    Also I think the new Starbucks $1 8-ounce they’re testing is bottomless..

    I wouldn’t try to emulate Starbucks’ business practice if I were a third wave shop, but thought I would mention my experience. I agree with your philosophy, and I do value a cup of coffee specially made for me rather than pulling out of the airpot.. It seems to just taste better..

  4. Jason Haeger Says:

    Thanks for the compliments, Mitchell.

    For the record, there are no waves… just great coffee. Labeling something does not automatically make it so.

  5. Mitchell Baldridge Says:

    then.. read:independent specialty coffee shop

  6. Jonathan Aldrich Says:

    White Rock Coffee in Dallas, should be on there.

  7. Jason Haeger Says:

    It is. Thanks, Jonathan.

  8. Kayakman Says:

    If using drip brewing method, the bottomless cup is a really bad idea because the coffee quality is not that good.

    If using the the French press or Vaccum Pot to brew for the bottomless cup the flavor extraction from the bean is at its best. I would also suggest that the Vac Pot brew method, unlike the French Press, if done out in the open keep the attention of the skill and performance of the barista. So there are many advantages to using the Vac Pot in the cafe/coffeehouse setting.

    Part of me also thinks that the cafe/coffeehouse culture is greatly impacted by offering or not offering the bottomless cup. If it is not offered, I think that the shop is encouraging more of a one cup or take-out coffee on the run type of espresso bar culture. By offering full flavor infusion (Vac Pot or French Press) brewed bottomless cup of coffee, you are encouraging a true “coffeehouse” the encourages community and supports the arts.

    It is interesting to note that many third-wave micro roasting coffeehouses, like Blue Bottle in San Fransisco, are switching to focusing on non-espresso based infused brewing methods to highlight the flavor of the beans. Many of these 3r-wave coffeehouse are also hosting art, music, and other cultural events.

    The espresso bar and the coffeehouse are two totally different types of coffee cultures and the bottomless cup is one of the great divides between them.

    So I would suggest… improve the brewing method to highlight the quality of the beans and encourage people to hang around, build community, and take in local culture. By transforming the coffeehouse into an espresso bar and doing away with the bottomless cup, coffee is transformed into something more like a quick fix drug.

  9. Jason Haeger Says:

    The point of focus for this article was not about the brew method. I consider it a fallacy to say that french press is a “better” method than drip. This just exposes a lack of skill in brewing, if you ask me.

    This article was also not about culture, which I believe exists independently of the price of coffee. Bottomless coffee devalues the coffee. Period. If you are selling nothing but community, that’s fine, but realize that the coffee is no longer the focus.

    Is our job as retailers to spark community, or is it to give an avenue for others to spark it themselves? I personally strongly believe the latter to be true. I also think we have the responsibility to maintain the value of the products we are selling. Devaluing them does not merely effect your business, and if everyone is doing it, you can bet that a normally priced (by market comparison, and not actual value) drink will suddenly become expensive looking to the consuming public. That’s absolutely something we want to avoid.

  10. Kayakman Says:

    The brew method plays in plays in to the issue heavily, as the article alludes to. The bottomless in 1st-wave mom and pops and Beatnik coffeehouse was not a quality cup of coffee by today’s standards. When 2nd-wave chain coffeehouses continued to offer this menu option, often the quality was still not a priority. The bottomless cup, in both of those Incarnation, does reflect badly on Specialty Coffee retailers. Not only in terms of flavor quality, but also in terms of highlighting the skills of the barista.

    I would disagree, as would most people, that drip brewing offers the same quality of flavor extraction as the French Press or Vacuum pot. Blue Bottle Cafe and Stumptown have both stitched over to these brewing methods for this reason. The point is that when using the the Vacuum pot to brew, neither the quality of the flavor extraction nor the skill of the barista has to be compromised. The bottomless cup brewed via “infusion” method reflects positively on Specialty Coffee retailers.

    Does it cost more to brew using either the French Press or Vacuum Pot vs. drip? I don’t really think it does.

    Like it or not, brewing methods and menu options do effect the culture of the coffeehouse. There are things in this area, I believe, the coffeehouse can do to encourage longer stay customers. Offering the bottomless cup is obviously one of them. The longer people stay, the greater the changes for community to be sparked. By not offering menu options that encourage people to say, we discourage longer stay customs and limit the possibles of community.

    Offering or not offering the bottomless cup directly impacts the of culture or lack of it at the coffeehouse.

  11. Kayakman Says:

    Although this goes beyond the scope of the topic of “bottomless cup” topic, I would suggest that the coffeehouse management is more directly involved in either encouraging or discouraging community and culture at the coffeehouse. For example, are private or semi-private space available for reservation by community groups? Are incentives offered to community groups to meet at the coffeehouse on a regular bases? Are community group options promoted by the coffeehouse?

    The same type of questions can be asked about the coffeehouse and the arts. Does the coffeehouse management actively seek out fresh art to hang on the walls? Is space provided for live music and are concert serious organized and promoted by the coffeehouse? Are other cultural events, like poetry nights, scheduled?

    In most case, if management take a passive role and just lets community and the arts happen on their own, nothing will ever take shape. The end result is less traffic in the after 6 pm business houses. Less traffic means less sales.

  12. Jason Haeger Says:

    Okay, I think you’re mistaking “Drip” to be encompassed only by “Auto Drip”, when this is clearly not the case.

    One thing has to take priority. If you are selling coffee, I believe coffee should be that priority.

    It seems to me that you are not selling coffee. You are selling culture… and offering coffee to your patrons.

    The bottomless concept hurts us all. It effects far more than your retailer. There are ways to encourage customers to stay for longer without giving away coffee (which is essentially what you’re doing with a bottomless scenario.. renting space, and you get free coffee with your stay. Such a poor display of respect for the coffee and all who have touched it on its way to the cup.)

    Please do some thinking for yourself on this as well. Sure, some front-runner companies have ditched drip. They are not the only front runners, and all of us have not ditched drip. It is different. It is not “worse”. (of course, this assumes it is being done correctly)

    If you want to discuss autodrip, that’s for another topic, and is a whole can of worms on its own. And no, I do not believe that it is necessarily worse than other brew methods. If you are good at what you do, the quality should be no different between brew methods. They will be DIFFERENT, yes, but outside of subjective preference, there should be no discernible difference in quality.

  13. Kayakman Says:

    I think all of these subjects are related.

    Brewing the bottomless infusion style, pays respect to the bean and if the vacuum pot is used, also the barista. If its brewed this way, why should we not be able to charge $3.50 – $4.50 for a bottomless cup. As most people will not drink more than 4 cups, how is that giving it away for free?

    By not offering the bottomless, the coffeehouse is discouraging longer stay customers and thus limit the possible of community.

    BTW… I really do not know much are types of drip brewing, but am willing to learn.

    Regarding culture and the coffeehouse

    Coffeehouses of the past, I believe, were actually culture driven and not coffee drink driven. That is to say that, the culture that formed supported the coffeehouse via drink sales. This is true of the Viennese Café, bohemian cafes of Paris, and the beatnik-hippie coffeehouse in the States.

    At the 3rd-wave coffeehouse, 1. micro roasting and 2. culture-community work hand in hand as equals creating a dynamic cross-traffic marketing platform. Alterra in Milwaukee, Victrola Coffee in Seattle, and Awaken in the Bay Area are just three examples of this new type of cross-traffic “culture cafe”.

    The 3rd-wave coffeehouse, is much different in nature than the espresso bar. At the espresso bar, espresso based drinks are the only attraction.

    It seems to be much wiser to base the business model on a dynamic cross-traffic marketing platform, than on drink sales alone.

  14. Kayakman Says:

    I wanted to ask you a question regarding the meaning of “drip” coffee in this article. Does this not mean either “Auto Drip”, “Pour Over”, and “Cold Brew”. This is a method where the water only passes through the beans? If you know of other drip methods please let me know.

    No mater how good of a barista one is, the flavor extraction and taste differences between “drip”, “infusion”, and “espresso” are all totally unique. So a refile for a bottomless cup brewed from a drip machine, infusion device, or espresso machine (Americano) are all totally different in flavor. The infusion based cup, by virtue of time that the water and beans spend together, ussually will yield the most full-body and full-flavor cup of coffee. Infusion brewing is after all the method used by coffee roasters to test the quality of the roast in a “cupping”.

    Please correct me if you think I am wrong in my understanding of drip brew and the flavor differences from the brewing methods.

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